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Sep 8, 2020 10:09
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German term

Schulterblick

German to English Marketing IT (Information Technology) UK English
Hinsichtlich Konzeption und Design wird M in mehreren Iterationen konzeptionelle Wireframes erstellen und diese im Schulterblick mit X abgleichen.
Durchführung von zwei Schulterblick-Terminen während der Konzeptionsphase
Für die Abstimmung der erbrachten Leistung sind zwei Schulterblicktermine sowie eine finale Korrekturschleife vorgesehen.

Synchronise with X by looking over their shoulder.
Meetings where they look over the shoulder of the other party to see what they are doing


Can anyone think of a snappier/better way of expressing this?
Thanks
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 collaborative peer review / pair review / huddle / demo session
4 +1 shadowing / second opinion
3 over-the-shoulder (meetings)

Discussion

Birgit Gläser Sep 18, 2020:
double-check? With Wendy... after looking into the mirror, you double check by looking back over your shoulder not to miss anything... so maybe double-check is sufficient in this context?
Birgit Gläser Sep 17, 2020:
double-check? With Wendy... after looking into the mirror, you double check by looking back over your shoulder not to miss anything... so maybe double-check is sufficient in this context?
Wendy Streitparth Sep 10, 2020:
@ Birgit: double-check finde ich gut.
Natalie Grassmann Sep 9, 2020:
Over the shoulder (online or in-person) Over the shoulder presentations are a common way to give an online learning presentation. The viewer is literally looking over the presenters shoulder in order to follow, e.g. steps taken on a computer. I think this would fit here, either if the client is present and looking over the designer's shoulder, or following the design process or alternatives online.
Birgit Gläser Sep 8, 2020:
double-check? With Wendy... after looking into the mirror, you double check by looking back over your shoulder not to miss anything... so maybe double-check is sufficient in this context?
Wendy Lewin (asker) Sep 8, 2020:
shoulder check is a US English phrase for looking of your should when driving but is not appropriate as I think this is talking about looking over someone else's shoulder to see what they are doing

Proposed translations

+2
5 hrs
Selected

collaborative peer review / pair review / huddle / demo session

https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/young-dedicated-...
"Young dedicated business team of three woman sitting in a meeting grouped around a desktop computer in an over the shoulder view"
The business team are huddled around the screen.

Peer or pair?
https://medium.com/@adrjohnston/why-pair-code-review-f32dbb7...

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Note added at 5 hrs (2020-09-08 15:58:34 GMT)
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Shadowing is not a peer-to-peer relationship. Second opinions do not necessitate a screen huddle.

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Note added at 7 hrs (2020-09-08 17:40:43 GMT)
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Is X a colleague or the client? If the latter, the session is about presentation.

"Die Agentur bittet Ertl in ihr Atelier und zeigt ihm erste Logo-Entwürfe. Diesen Kontakt nennt man in der Branche 'Schulterblick.' Bei einem Schulterblick sollte der Auftraggeber immer daran denken, dass er mit seinen spontanen Reaktionen konstruktive Hinweise gibt, aber nicht einengt und zensiert."
https://www.onpulson.de/1898/agenturbriefing-die-richtige-vo...

"Ein größerer Pitch kann auch mehrere Präsentationsstufen beinhalten. Im Fachjargon heißen solche Zwischenstufen auch Schulterblick, bei dem dem Kunden unfertige Ideenvorschläge und Konzepte präsentiert werden."
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenturpitch#:~:text=Im Fachja...

or (re)briefing session
https://konzeptionerblog.de/2014/05/rebriefing-ist-nicht-gle...


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Note added at 9 hrs (2020-09-08 19:13:01 GMT)
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Re "equivalent term in English" (i.e. something involving parts of the body):
heads-up?
Note from asker:
That is very useful. Yes, X is the client. So maybe a collaborative review would be the best solution. It would seem to be a know term in German, is there no equivalent term in English?
Peer comment(s):
agree Björn Vrooman : Cf https://ericamedia.de/design/wireframing/ and https://www.experienceux.co.uk/faqs/what-is-wireframing/ Schulterblick is mentioned, as is review (also like present, though). In short, this has little to do with actually looking over someone's shoulder.
2 hrs
agree Natalie Grassmann
11 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for all your thoughts"
+1
15 mins

shadowing / second opinion

Shadowing is a term used for when you are looking to see what someone else is doing and how they are doing it so that you can do the same or learn how to do the same as they are doing. The term is often used in business when a new person has to learn from a more experienced person.

Another option is "second opinion" but not sure if that works here?

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Note added at 5 hrs (2020-09-08 15:52:21 GMT)
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https://www.thebalancecareers.com/job-shadowing-is-effective...
Reference:

https://www.linguee.com/english-german/search?query=Schulterblick

Peer comment(s):
neutral writeaway : do you have any references other than Linguee? They are all marked with a 'warning triangle' https://www.linguee.com/english-german/search?query=Schulter...
2 hrs
thank you for the feedback! https://www.thebalancecareers.com/job-shadowing-is-effective...
agree Sebastian Tredinnick : Agree with shadowing.
3 hrs
Thank you for your support
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11 hrs

over-the-shoulder (meetings)

Compare with this:
"Many side-bar or ‘over the shoulder’ meetings and reviews are held in
conjunction with the monthly design meetings in which engineering and safety
disciplinary staff work on specific issues." p. 54 https://ehss.energy.gov/deprep/archive/documents/PM070322_DO...
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