| विषय में पृष्ठों की संख्या: < [1 2] | Extremely low rates coming out of South America विषय पोस्ट करनेवाला व्यक्ति: Colleen Roach, PhD
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Lara Garau 
आर्जेंटीना
Local time: 19:40
सदस्य (2020)
अंग्रेजी से स्पेनी
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| Sworn translator from Argentina- you can report them. | Jan 31, 2019 |
Hello, I'm an ENES translator from Argentina. I wanted to tell you that many companies offer jobs at low rates, however, we have "suggested rates" by professional associations. If you're a member of any of these associations you can't hire a translator for a lot less (20% less) than what's suggested by those associations nor take a job if you are a translator for less than that either.
So if you find an Argentine based company created by a translator member of any translator assoc... See more Hello, I'm an ENES translator from Argentina. I wanted to tell you that many companies offer jobs at low rates, however, we have "suggested rates" by professional associations. If you're a member of any of these associations you can't hire a translator for a lot less (20% less) than what's suggested by those associations nor take a job if you are a translator for less than that either.
So if you find an Argentine based company created by a translator member of any translator association who is paying less than what's suggested by their association, you can legally denounce them and they might lose their license or be banned from working all together (in case of sworn translators, they can remove our license). You can also do this with translators who accept low rates.
Here are the two biggest associations from Argentina and their suggested rates:
https://aati.org.ar/es/aranceles-orientativos
http://www.traductores.org.ar/aranceles-minimos
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| | | | Colleen Roach, PhD
संयुक्त राज्य अमरीका
Local time: 15:40
फ्रांसीसी से अंग्रेजी
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विषय आरंभकर्ता | Argentina: interesting goings-on relating to rates | Feb 1, 2019 |
Lara Garau wrote:
Hello, I'm an ENES translator from Argentina. I wanted to tell you that many companies offer jobs at low rates, however, we have "suggested rates" by professional associations. If you're a member of any of these associations you can't hire a translator for a lot less (20% less) than what's suggested by those associations nor take a job if you are a translator for less than that either.
So if you find an Argentine based company created by a translator member of any translator association who is paying less than what's suggested by their association, you can legally denounce them and they might lose their license or be banned from working all together (in case of sworn translators, they can remove our license). You can also do this with translators who accept low rates.
Here are the two biggest associations from Argentina and their suggested rates:
https://aati.org.ar/es/aranceles-orientativos
http://www.traductores.org.ar/aranceles-minimos
The latter is for sworn translators only.
Lara: thank you so much for taking the time to "weigh in" here in this discussion! Very interesting input as to what's going on in Argentina as far as professional associations' attempts to deal with rates. I went to the first web site and am digesting the rates -- it's very specific and thorough with the breakdown of language pairs and types of translations. Particularly interesting: if an agency is in Europe or the US, Argentine translators in this association are supposed to charge what Europeans or Americans would charge (as I'm interpreting the guidelines/rates). So, that is obviously designed to prevent European & American companies going to Latin America (Argentina, etc.) and paying translators there peanuts (1-2 US cents a word) so that they don't have to pay Europeans & Americans "going rates" (i.e. 10-12 US cents per word).
What looks very promising also is when you write: "So if you [a member of the association] find an Argentine based company created by a translator member of any translator association who is paying less than what's suggested by their association, you can legally denounce them and they might lose their license or be banned from working all together (in case of sworn translators, they can remove our license). You can also do this with translators who accept low rates." As far as the latter -- denouncing translators who accept low rates -- I'm wondering how effective that is, i.e. who is to know if this occurs? (Who would admit this?) I saw a translation job recently on a site particularly well known for paying rock-bottom rates for all sorts of projects (not just translations). The job posting was from a European-based company for EN>ES at 1 US cent per word. The company (or whatever it is, outsourcer,out-sourcer of out-sourcer, etc.) not only had plenty of translators interested in this offer but they had a very substantial "history" on this web site for the same language pair -- going back a number of years.
Nonetheless, what you're attempting in Argentina in dealing with the whole "low rates" issue is very commendable -- it has teeth. I hope it's working.
Regards, Colleen
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This is a very commented matter today, it is the third forum where translators are arguing, nothing against those who accept low rates, I only think that those who accept the low prices are devaluing the category
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Colleen Roach, PhD wrote:
Robert writes: "but there are other platforms available for us translators, like Linkedin or Facebook."
I check out regularly several Linked In translation groups, and I haven't seen people post a warning simply on a low-paying agency. What I've seen are people posting the names of agencies that do not pay, or in some other way "scam" the translator. I'm not on Facebook -- I should be.
Anyway, if anybody reading this wants the name of this agency, please send me a private message here on PROZ.
I wish there were a forum were agencies and the average rates they paid for specific language pairs were stated, which could be posted regardless of whether the translator had actually worked with them or not. It would save so much time. If one wants to work for low fees that's one's choice (depending on where you live, that may be feasible), but it'd be great if we knew which agencies accepted which rates in advance. I've often contacted agencies (or they've contacted me) based on positive reviews on PP or Blueboard (i.e. positive comments on their payment terms and consistency, not rates), only to find out the rates they accepted weren't even in the ballpark of my own.
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Dan Lucas
यूनाइटेड किंगडम
Local time: 23:40
सदस्य (2014)
जापानी से अंग्रेजी
| Some freelancers are more equal than others | Feb 13, 2019 |
Annie Sapucaia wrote:
I wish there were a forum were agencies and the average rates they paid for specific language pairs were stated, which could be posted regardless of whether the translator had actually worked with them or not. It would save so much time.
The problem is that good agencies decide on a case-by-case basis. I know there are freelancers who get rates much lower than my rates, and I am sure there are freelancers who have higher rates than I charge. There is no one blanket rate for a particular language pair, or even for a specialisation within that language pair. It's all about perceived differences between individuals. That's why differentiation is so important.
Regards,
Dan
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