Glossary entry

Portuguese term or phrase:

garimpo

English translation:

(water) smuggling

Added to glossary by Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Dec 12, 2018 11:03
5 yrs ago
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Portuguese term

garimpo

Portuguese to English Tech/Engineering Engineering (general) water agency in Luanda, Angola
Of course I'm very familiar with the word used in the context of mining.

This is a document on the improvement of water supply in Luanda, Angola. The water agency is EPAL-EP. There's an article on the problem of garimpeiros, including how they steal the water and sell it, at: https://www.portaldeangola.com/2018/07/01/garimpeiros-no-kil...

For now I'm using 'stealing' as a placeholder, but I'd like a more precise word.

In my document, it comes up in a table listing measures for improving the water supply. The objective is:

"Combate ao vandalismo as condutas adutoras e rede e venda ilegal de água"

The action item is:

"Garantir a implementação do Programa de Combate ao **Garimpo** e Venda Ilegal de Água"
Change log

Dec 16, 2018 09:22: Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida Created KOG entry

Discussion

Muriel Vasconcellos (asker) Dec 16, 2018:
Re: hacking In the article in Ana's reference, there is also discussion of potential electronic hacking that would disable the water system, as well as the power grid and other systems that the public relies on. I think the author is mixing up the intended meaning of 'hacking'.
Muriel Vasconcellos (asker) Dec 16, 2018:
Regarding my final choice I selected 'smuggling' because it's the term used in the English literature on the subject in Angola. According to Theory of Terminology, communication is best when familiar terminology is used consistently. That said, 2 of the 3 Merriam-Webster definitions of 'smuggling' imply crossing an international border without paying duties. So 'theft' is probably more accurate. 'Siphoning' is physically correct, but the main point is that the company is losing money because no tariffs are being paid on the stolen water.
@Mário Convém ler o que está para trâs, está tudo bem explicadinho aqui na discussão...
Mario Freitas Dec 12, 2018:
@ Teresa Ah, bom. Isso eu não sabia mesmo. Estou pensando em Brasilês :)
@Mário Garimpo em Português de Angola tem um sentido diferente...
Mario Freitas Dec 12, 2018:
Garimpo vs. contrabando Garimpo refers to the operation of extracting the water from the natural source. It's the first operation, before the water is bottled. Smuggling would be a later operation, i.e. the illegal distribution of the product to the market.
Theft would be stealing from a third party, also after the water was extracted from the source. We don't use the term "theft" when the stolen party is the nature or the environment, IMO.
Despite the four agrees to Teresa, I'll disagree and post a new suggestion.
@Paulinho Aqui nos bairros mais pobres era costume ligar os contadores quando a eletricidade era desligada por falta de pagamento. Hoje com a ajuda da informática suponho que seja impossível...
Paulinho Fonseca Dec 12, 2018:
@Teresa, ótimos links sobre o assunto. Aqui no Brasil, infelizmente temos os contrabandistas/ladrões de combustíveis da Petrobrás. Eles violam os dutos em alguns pontos críticos e 'fazem a festa'.
@Paulinho Foi preciso pesquisar bastante mas acabei por encontrar um documento da empresa em causa em inglês que fala de... "water smuggling". O facto de ter vivido em Angola durante uns anos não ajudou nada porque a linguagem mudou muito...
Paulinho Fonseca Dec 12, 2018:
'Water Smuggling', according to Teresa Borges.
Muriel Vasconcellos (asker) Dec 12, 2018:
@ Teresa 'Smuggling', from your article, is a good solution. As in: Why didn't I think of that? Please do post your answer.
@Muriel Look at footnote 49 of the "Water Theft and Water Smuggling" document...
https://allafrica.com/stories/201401062040.html
@Muriel Can't find a better one. Cape Verde deals with the same problem: http://atlantico-weekly.com/page/18/?s
Cornelius Gillen Dec 12, 2018:
illegal extraction and sale of water
Muriel Vasconcellos (asker) Dec 12, 2018:
theft That just came to me. It's a little better, but I'd stiil like a more specific word.

Proposed translations

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Selected

(water) smuggling

My suggestion based on the research done, please check discussion...
Peer comment(s):

agree Paulinho Fonseca : :)
23 mins
Obrigada, Paulinho!
agree Gilmar Fernandes
31 mins
Obrigada, Gilmar!
agree Ana Vozone
58 mins
Obrigada, Ana!
agree Oliver Simões
1 hr
Obrigada, Oliver!
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for the research, Teresa!"
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(water) hacking

Também aparece "theft" no título.
Penso que "theft" é mais adequado ;)
Note from asker:
Hi Ana, I read the article at the link you provided. I think the term is being used in a dual sense because there is also concern that the electronics of the delivery stem could be hacked.
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40 mins

water mining

Nas minhas pesquisas, eu encontrei o termo sugerido se referindo à retirada de água dos aquíferos.
Example sentence:

"Also referred to as overdraft or mining the aquifer."

"Investors Are Mining for Water..."

Note from asker:
Thank you, but this is about stealing water from the municipal system and selling it. The article I cited explains how they do it.
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Portuguese term (edited): Garimpo e Venda Ilegal de Água

Water Theft ...Theft and ilegal sale of water

Garimpo e Venda Ilegal de Água => Water Theft ...Theft and ilegal sale of water

Toll-free helpline to arrest water mafia in Mumbai -Governance Now
https://www.governancenow.com/news/.../toll-free-helpline-ar...
Mar 11, 2010 - Mumbaikars can now call 1800-200-9837 round-the-clock and report instances of water theft and illegal sale of water. .
Note from asker:
This is probably the best answer in the end, though "garimpo" is a special kind of theft. However, I chose 'smuggling' because that's the term used in the English literature on the subject in Angola. According to Theory of Terminology, communication is best when the most familiar terms are used.
Peer comment(s):

agree Nick Taylor
1 day 7 hrs
agradeço
agree Spiridon : yes
2 days 19 hrs
agradeço
agree T o b i a s : sp.: illegal
3 days 8 hrs
agradeço
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illegal extraction/exploration/sourcing/prospecting

Suggestion per discussion
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unauthorised water distribution and consumption

unauthorised water distribution and consumption
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3 days 12 hrs

illegal syphoning

Where 'theft' won't do, this is what I'd use.

"Security problems (including employees needing to have a police escort) and frequent attacks against infrastructure," such as illegal syphoning of water from points along the water mains, were highlighted in Hagihon's statement.
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2014/03/0327-links-pt1-pa-r...

This agitation had even forced the High Court to direct Coca Cola to stop this illegal syphoning of water, though the company is trying every means to circumvent it.
http://maoistresistance.blogspot.com/2007/09/cpi-maoist-book...

It cited “security problems (including employees needing to have a police escort) and frequent attacks against infrastructure,” such as the illegal syphoning-off of water from certain points along the mains supply.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="illegal syphoning of ...



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Note added at 3 days 12 hrs (2018-12-15 23:11:44 GMT)
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Sorry. Repeat example.

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Note added at 3 days 12 hrs (2018-12-15 23:35:15 GMT)
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or siphoning with an i:

But the metro water board, while admitting that the demand for tankers has increased by 25 per cent, blames residents for using powerful motors that draw off all water and at the same time, has not cracked down on households using such motors. Last week, the board booked cases against four residents but the number involved in illegal siphoning off of water reportedly runs into lakhs.
https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/29031...


Ukraine’s water supply systems are in dire need of repair. Leakage in the water distribution network, either due to the poor condition of pipes, or to illegal siphoning off of water, has remained at very high levels in all regions of Ukraine.
https://ecd.usaid.gov/repository/pdf/37103.pdf


Note from asker:
Thank you, Tobias. This works, too. Please see my comment about why I didn't chose your answer.
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