May 1, 2013 19:11
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term

cognitivo no relevante

Spanish to English Medical Medical: Health Care psychiatric report
Term appears in the 'exploracion' section of a psychiatric report. This section is written as a list of sentence fragments such as:

fms conservadas
vida instintiva conservada
cognitivo no relevante

Whilst I am able to translate the other entries and understand what they mean, I am unclear what this part refers to. Cognitive examination not relevant?

Discussion

Steven Huddleston May 1, 2013:
Well your experience definitely trumps mine… Hey great! I’m glad we got this discussion going.

Although I am very interested in psychology (I once dreamed of being a psychologist, but life had other plans for me, it seems…), and read almost anything on the subject that I can get my hands on, I claim no special expertise. Mine is a layperson’s knowledge, so I bow to your experience.

You’d think a phrase composed of such common, everyday words would be easy to interpret. Well, obvious, dire need for punctuation aside, my interpretation is based on the use of the word “conservada” for the two previous examples on the list, I saw a pattern: “subject—status” and interpreted “conservadas” as “retained” or perhaps “used,” hence the “no relevante,” became the opposite, something like “dismissed” or “not used.”

But I must admit, your argument is excellent, and I am but a hair’s breadth from agreeing with you, except that I can’t quite dismiss mine yet...

With a little luck, others will come!
Joseph Tein May 1, 2013:
Discussion Thanks for inviting the discussion, Steven. So, to elaborate: The way I read what bonilda has presented, the patient's "fms" [funciones mentales superiores] have been evaluated, the "vida instintiva" [I don't know how to translate that one!] has been evaluated ... so to me it makes sense that the 3rd item in the list also indicates an assessment or evaluation, in this case "unremarkable" ... nothing to report. I DO see that it could also possibly mean "not relevant" (and I understand your point about people with Tourette's), but I'm still inclined to read "no relevante" as part of the evaluation findings -- not significant/unremarkable.

My background influences this perspective: I have a Master's degree in counseling psychology and have worked in outpatient mental health clinics as well as psychiatric hospitals.

Let's see if we get some more opinions from our colleagues.
Steven Huddleston May 1, 2013:
"Cognitive" is NOT always [strictly] "relevant." Greetings, Joseph! You make a good point, however, consider this: A Tourette syndrome patient may have a "perfect" cognitive score (indeed, some are lawyers and doctors) and yet, it is their brain that doesn't "work" right.

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cognitive unremarkable

There are different ways of translating the word "relevante" ... "relevant" isn't the only possible meaning, and I don't think it applies in this case particularly. Other possible translations are: significant, important, outstanding, and notable.

A cognitive assessment is ALWAYS relevant in a psychiatric evaluation ... it's an important and necessary part of the patient's overall picture ... but the findings can be "unremarkable" ... nothing special, nothing significant. Either way, it's important to include this information in the complete assessment.

So I think that here it means that there's nothing outstanding or significant in the patient's cognitive status.

The context and background information are just a little scarce for me, but I think this is saying that the patient's cognitive status is unremarkable, nothing to elaborate on.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Steven Huddleston : Oh, we should be having this discussion in the comments section. This promisses to be a good one!
7 mins
Thanks again ... see above.
agree Zilin Cui : relevante is a faux ami here!
1 hr
Thank you Mafalda
agree Cesar Serrano
1 hr
Gracias Cesar
agree Charles Davis : No expertise in the particular field but you are absolutely right about "relevante". I would say "relevant" is the correct translation in fewer than 50% of cases.
4 hrs
Good morning Charles ... thanks.
agree Cinnamon Nolan
11 hrs
Thank you, Cinammon.
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cognitive not relevant

It seems to me that it is just a list of tests or procedures and how they apply to the patient, hence the cognitive test is not relevant for this condition. Well, that's how I read it. Good luck!

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Note added at 6 mins (2013-05-01 19:18:06 GMT)
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Notice that the first two items are "conserved" (retained?) whilst this one is ”not relevant.” This could be because the patient's condition is one that is not associated with any cognitive defect, but rather some other neurological or physiological condition.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Joseph Tein : Hi Steven ... note my answer below.
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